Re: [A-List] RE: A reformulation (only five?)

["Nestor Gorojovsky" <nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Respuesta a:"Re: [A-List] RE: A reformulation (o"
Enviado por:Henry C.K. Liu
Con fecha:17 Feb 2006, a las 17:11

> ...demonization of the leader denomized the movement. Hitler was a
> monster, ergo Fascism is monstrous.  Saddam is a monster, ergo
> pan-Arabism is monstrous.  Mao was a monster, ergo, Chinese 
> communism is monstrous. It goes on and on. In this vein, I defended 
> Mao, and Pol Pot, not because they were flawless, but because their 

> causes were just and good.
> 
> Henry C.K. Liu

(1) Hats off for Henry!

On the same line, I will be provocative: 

"Galtieri was a monster, ergo the Argentinean struggle for the 
Malvinas was monstruous."

(2) But there is still a problem, which is a problem of those who 
share the camp:  imperialist pressure makes it very difficult to 
debate seriously the _flaws_.  More times than not, the debate is 
stiffled in the name of defense of those who are under imperialist 
attack.  It is not easy to reach an equilibrium here.  And I believe 
the A-list should be one of the places where we might at least try to 
attain some equilibrium.

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> Nestor Gorojovsky wrote:
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> >Respuesta a:"[A-List] RE: A reformulation (only five?)"
> >Enviado por:Sabri Oncu
> >Con fecha:17 Feb 2006, a las 9:21
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> >> ...defining the problem as "Imperialism or Iraq" rather than
> >>"Sam or Saddam" is way superior. 
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> >But the definition of the terms of the debate isn't always in our own
> > hands.  The fact is, actual flesh and blood people make history.
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> >Este correo lo ha enviado
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> >nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >patria tiene que ser la dignidad arriba y el regocijo abajo".
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Este correo lo ha enviado
Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
nestorgoro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[No necesariamente es su autor]
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"La patria tiene que ser la dignidad arriba y el regocijo abajo".
Aparicio Saravia
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