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Re: [A-List] China-Africa
My heart and my applause are with you.
I mean you are right.
Julio Fernández Baraibar
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Visite mi blog: http>//fernandezbaraibar.blogspot.com
----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Para: "Patrick Bond" <pbond@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "The A-List"
<a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Enviado: Domingo, 22 de Enero de 2006 09:55 a.m.
Asunto: Re: [A-List] China-Africa
> I read very carefully. Bond's "accusation" of "me" playing into
> Economist's hands is merely hopelessly unconvincing cover-up of his
> using neo-imperialist propaganda to support his baseless accusation
> about China in Africa.
>
> I was going to leave it there since Bond has lost all credibility on his
> integrity, but what "Chinese brutality in Africa" is he babbling about
> foaming in the mouth? Can he cite some cases?
> What looting? Is a Chinese trade deficit with Africa evidence of looting?
>
> On the web site of Sokwanele.com, a self-styled "civic action support
> group" funded by the imperialistic West, an attack on China-Zimbabwe
> friendship is introduced by a complaint against "rantings" of "frenzied
> attack on Tony Blair", the allegedly beloved democrat, and "his
> treasonous accomplices of imperialism", allegedly true friends of
> democracy.
>
> The opening paragraph reads:
>
> "We are a sovereign nation! We will never be a colony again!" This
> slogan drove ZANU PF's 2005 election campaign; and it was followed by a
> frenzied attack on Tony Blair and his treasonous accomplices of
> imperialism within Zimbabwe. The thousands of school children forced to
> listen to such rantings have never experienced being a colony and surely
> do not understand the concept of sovereignty. But it becomes
> increasingly apparent that few of those who shout from the rooftops
> about our much vaunted sovereignty understand it either. They do not
> understand that sovereignty in today's globalised community holds little
> meaning for many nations, and even less for a country with a collapsed
> economy. But even worse, as they boast disingenuously of Zimbabwe's
> sovereignty, they are busy selling what little remains of it to a
> different coloniser - the Chinese. End of quote.
>
> But who left the Zimbabwe economy in a collapsed state? It was British
> imperialism followed by US neo-imperialism. Not China. China helped
> Zimbabwe free itself from colonialism and is now helping it to revive
> a collapsed economy left by Western imperialism.
>
> On the Sokwanele web site:
>
> "Sokwanele - Zvakwana is a peoples' movement, embracing supporters of
> all pro-democratic political parties, civic organizations and
institutions."
> Meaning supporters of residual Western imperialism camouflaged as
> supporters of democracy.
>
> <> "Sokwanele - Zvakwana will never aspire to political office."
> Why? Because it is working for the return of Western imperialism under
> the guise of democracy.
>
> This is the line Bond is selling.
>
> Henry C.K. Liu
>
>
> Patrick Bond wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry C.K. Liu"
<hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Patrick Bond" <pbond@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "The A-List"
> > <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [A-List] China-Africa
> >
> >> Of course Bond cites the Economist, the imperialist agenda of which
> >> is well known.
> >
> >
> > Yes, if you'd read carefully, Henry, you would see that I accuse *you*
> > of playing into their hands, by your dismissal and justification of
> > Chinese brutality in Africa. I hope you can dissuade me of that at
> > some point, because the arguments advanced to rationalise the looting
> > are beneath you. Let's just leave it there.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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