Re: [A-List] How "scientific" is science?

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The hiv virus is not documented at all. I challenge you to present one
published scientific paper where it is claimed it has been found. They
dont exist. You are relying on the mass press which keeps stating what you
have repeated but it doesnt stand up to scutiny. The virus still has never
been observed, has not been photographed, or its DNA structure analyzed
becuase it has not been found. not once in any person to this date. Some
scientists, that is those whose reputations depend on this theory claim to
have proved its existence by claiming that certain p[rotein particles in
the blood appear to be particles of such a virus but others state that
those can be free floating protein particles or particles of thousands of
other viruses we have in our systems. No one has yet detected the virus
itself. Furhter the detection of antibodies to a virus usually means that
one is proected agaisnt the disease but these hocus-pocus guys claim that
is evidence of illness.  No if you read the material at the Perth Group
site and hundreds of other sites and read what many scientists around the
world say (including Nobel laureates)you will find that what you think you
know is not so at all.

Chris
> on 12/16/2005 8:00 PM, Sabri Oncu at soncu@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> But the propagation of the hiv-aids myth benefits the drug
>> companies who now have a market for their old anti-cancer
>> fatally toxic drugs and effectively masks the fact that
>> western economic policies are decimating the peoples of the
>> third world and in particular Africa.
>
>     Yes, the pharmaceutical industry capitalizes on all epidemic diseases.
> This does not, however, mean that diseases do not exist.
>
>     The HIV virus is well documented world-wide, historically back to
> 1959.
> There is no question as to the existence of this virus and its nature.
>
>     The interactions among nutrition, immunology and general human health
> relating to HIV and AIDS are subjects for debate and investigation. there
> is
> no vast conspiracy to profit from the invention of a false HIV virus. It
> is
> very real and its effects are very real.
>
>     It's important to separate the real from the fantasy, by examining the
> evidence. Rationality is our only defense in the face of fantasy.
>
>     Michael
>
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