Re: [A-List] How "scientific" is science?

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As the smoke cleared, Hayduke <hayduke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
mounted the barricade and roared out:

> on 12/17/2005 11:20 AM, grok@xxxxxxxxx at grok@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > The solution, as always, is Socialism.
>
> Socialism has nothing to say about science. Socialism is a
> social science, subject to the tides and whims of human
> emotion. Science is about observation and verification.
> Social science is about observation and speculation. There
> is no firm ground on which social science can be built as
> it varies with the whims of its practitioners.
>
> There is nothing inherent in socialism that addresses the
> physical nature of the Universe. Socialism provides moral
> direction only. It cannot serve as a basis for theory
> building and confirmation.
>
> Neither does socialism deny science. There is nothing in a
> socialist economy that has anything to say about science.
> Presumably, in a socialist economy, scientists would
> receive exactly the same support from the society as every
> and be obligated to provide the same support to the
> society.
>
> Socialism is not a solution, it is a choice.
>
>     Michael

You conveniently left out the _first_ part of my
above-referenced email: the part which mentioned
dialectical-materialism. And so that changes the point of
what you are replying to very much.

And not only that: in just these terms alone you assume too
much. I never equated Socialism with Science. I only stated
that the _solution_ was Socialism.


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