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Re: [A-List] Dave Zirin on Tookie Williams/Robin Philpot compares EC/Québec aboriginal policy



...If Quebec 'separates fromt the rest of Canada'..that will be the end of
Canada. Welcome to the 51st state...It would probably mean the eventual
destruction of Quebec sovereignty as well.

Tony


----- Original Message ----- From: "Sabri Oncu" <soncu@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: [A-List] Dave Zirin on Tookie Williams/Robin Philpot compares EC/Québec aboriginal policy


I must confess that I have difficulty in following much of the debate
between Macdonald and Jim because of my lack of knowledge of the details.
I
suspect most of the other non-Canadians on the list have the same
difficulty. To turn their debate into something fruitful that we all can
follow, here is a question to both of them:

How do we distinguish among sovereignty, self-determination and state?

More specifically, is self-determination possible without sovereignty and
sovereignty without state?

Lastly, if Quebec separates from the rest of Canada and becomes a
"nation-state," which nation's state will that be?

Best,

Sabri











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