Re: [A-List] Iraq: "we seem to be able to live with it"

["Christopher Black" <bar@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Viveka,

Just back from Africa so am a little out of touch but Limbaugh is an
excellent example of how the German people allowed the Nazis to get away
with their crimes. The rationalizations engaged in by him and Senator Inhofe
(I saw him making his remarks on CNN in Tanzania) verge on the psychopathic.
These guys speak for Bush and Cheney and express how they really feel about
this. They couldnt care less about torturing anyone or who gets killed.
There is no change in Bush's policy and there cannot be until the US Army is
defeated in the field which it is well on its way to experiencing.

Bush et al are there for the oil only. They intend to control it if they can
which means no matter what happens or how bad it gets it is going to get
worse becuase they beleive they need that oil if the US is to survive as an
industrial nation. (That they could just buy as before is no longer
considered. The have decided to just go in and steal it. The have also
decided that they must control it so they can remain the dominant economic
power and by having their hands on the spiggot China and Europe are at their
mercy (which is why the French, Germans and Russians will never approve the
US resolution placed before the Security Council). This is total war. These
criminals are willing to expend untold numbers of US lives (after all they
are just working class nobodies so who gives a damn if they are killed or
wounded) and money (taxed out of the pockets again of the mainly working
class not their own pockets) in order to get that control.

I do not think they can succeed and will be defeated but they cannot afford
to reverse course now without the US being reduced to a second rate power.
If the US loses control of the oil in the middle east then Europe and China
will be the predominant economic powers. The softening of the rhetoric and
the overtures to the UN are just window dressing, a mere change in immediate
tactics in order to try to get hold of the initiative whch they have lost.
They are realizing that the US is really quite weak but do not know what to
do about it.  They cant leave Iraq and they cannot stay.The result, a
military disaster, a draining of the US economy, internal divisions (as we
have alredy seen), and a general seething and boiling and bubbling from
beneath the surface of the US society which one day will explode into
something very, very unpleasant.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "viveka" <kaliyuga@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "The A-List" <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [A-List] Iraq: "we seem to be able to live with it"


> Rush Comments....
>
> > "And that's why I'm not going to sit here and obsess and join the rest
of
> > the media with this and turn this into a campaign issue, try to convince
> as
> > many people that George Bush is incompetent and needs to be thrown out
of
> > office -- because that's all this is.
>
> Not much to say about this fool, but I do find it curious that the media,
so
> silent on any number of other more egregious acts, is now "obsessed" with
> the issue.  Have they been given the green light to go after Bush?  Is it
> only that it's lurid and sexy and that sells in the media world?  Don't
> know, but I find it odd.
>
> Also, did anyone else get the sense from Bush's speech last night that it
> was not written like his other speeches - gone was the bluster and bully
> that were his trademarks.  Is this indicative of a major policy shift
and/or
> a change in the policy makers that write the complete sentences for him?
>
> Maggie
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