[A-List] Re: Political Trortskyism- preceding article modified for a A-List

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--- Waistline2@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I shall die with the memory of the Greatness of Stalin, his cold
> fixed eyes
> on the enemy, his brilliance on the national-colonial question, and
> also his
> historical limitation and errors.

Dang. After a statement like that, I need to clean off my monitor and
keyboard.


Avoidance of the political issues does not make them go away.  I raised
specific issues about the political configuration of America today and why the
so-called Marxist movement in our country carried forth its horrible distortions
on the basis of the personalities of Stalin and Trotsky - the left wing flank
of the imperial bourgeoisie.

The class and national factors in American history and the historic political
alignment  is the question. Sides were taken and I am very clear about who
was standing
next to me. This is of course the point avoided like the plague. Communists
and
Marxists in America call the intertwining of the struggle of the African
American people and that of and as proletariat the national and colonial
question.

See, the question of Stalin in American history has very little to do with
the internal evolution of the Soviet Union. To fight within a social movement
in America - after the SDecond Imperial War, on the basis of the political
divisions and ideology of another country and state is the height of stupidity.

Now, major victories has been scored by  the communist workers in winning the
battle to describe the old plantation system as a value producing system and
now the door is opened to win the battle over the meaning of the commodity
form and win the battle to describe the  bourgeois property relations, so we know
what we are doing. The next battle to  win will probably be over describing
the logic of Reconstruction, what happened and why.

One has to learn how to see the forest and each tree and their interactions.

When the communist from whom I emerged says, Stalin remains a beacon of
light, the petty bourgeoisie see internal Soviet development and we do not
mean
this. How come every so-called revolutionary group in American history -
except
us, has crashed and in the last instance been rendered obsolete on the basis
of
a wrong assessment of the national colonial question in America?

One can all ways plead ignorance on the monumental betrayal, the real
historical crimes and a lack of understanding history, but political
tradition is
involved - ones politics. The communist workers in America are going to win
the
theory and political battle and establish hegemony over the so-called left,
based on correcting the falsification of American history. All we are going
to do
is tell the real truth to the various people of the American Union and the
Trotskyites and those of that tradition cannot do this because they were
never
really were part of the working class in the first place.

What makes it possible to win the fight in this era is not the break up of
the Soviet Union - as Lou Proyect insists, because somehow this constitutes a
"new" determining ingredient, but the changes in capital that are destroying
layers of American society and compelling a reformulation of the social
movement on another class basis. Those in the Trotskyite tradition always proceed
from the ideology in the interior of their shallow heads.

Trotskyism was never a political movement but an ideological collection of
primarily misguided intellectuals outside the working class, especially in
America. The internal unity of Trotskyism was based on hate - a fight to the
death
with the Soviet power and government, which they defined as its leader -
Stalin. This
forced Trotskyism into an alignment with bourgeois imperialism and through
this alignment German fascism. Those who opposed fighting the Soviet Power and
its government were declared the enemy of Trotksyism and "Stalinist," although
the majority of the communist workers in America hardly had an opinion on the
personality struggle one way or another.

How can a political collective of "revolutionaries" have no significant
history as leader in any facet of the social movement in America after 70 years of
existence, unless they exist outside the working class?

This is the point concerning the alignment that crystallized on the basis of
personalities of the past. It gets deeper because the Trotskyite ideological
"movements"  in America is based in the specifics of our history and in the
last period of history were hardly anything more than college students (of the
SDS mode)
fancying themselves "great revolutionaries," but uttering terrified of the
painstaking work involved in shaping the consciousness of the workers at
every
distinct stage of the social struggle. These student groups have not a clue
how Montgomery Alabama in the early fifites of the past century reawaken an
impulse for a study of Marxism and is the real impetus of their birth.

Trotskyism and the tradition of Trotsky cannot sustain  itself because it is
not a coherent theory of anything in the first place and can only attempt to
adapt to the political theory of the communist workers that describe - more
accurately than others, the new features of our era. We - the communist workers,
have carried and are carrying this political fight into  every nook and cranny
of America and will not fail because we are on the proper side of history. We
are fairly accurate in describing the qualitative changes underway in the
mode of production and have a historically retrievable fifteen-year history of
this battle. "Elements" of the Trotskyite movement will of course be won over to
our political theory because it is accurate. This is all
right.

Our working class cannot advance as a political force, except on the basis of
a profound understanding of the national colonial question, the role of the
elite, the political structures internal to America's multinational state
union, and these things have to be stated within the framework of thinking of
the
class.

There is a reason the communist workers speak of the state of the
multinational state of the American Union and the line of advance opened to
us, in
its dismantling and reconfiguration. One has to understand American history,
which the falsifiers of history obscure to this day by screaming, "Look at
Stalin." Being on the correct side of the political equation as history
transition
is always more important than professed theoretical brilliance of decaying
class strata.

A moment of pause.

Mr. Jurriaan is fond of calling me a murderer and or supporter of torture
when in fact it is the imperial peoples - in American the Anglo American
people in history, and their left wing front men that have drowned the world in
centuries of blood and committed crimes of which, history will make them pay
restitution. I am a "black racist" according to Jurriaan, but it is he who is the
guardian of race theory and champion of the middle class in decay.

By the word petty bourgeoisie what is meant is the political logic of a class
that appears as a theoretical grid incapable of grasping the line of
trajectory on which is abolished bourgeois property. No class or
representation of a
class or strata can politically and theoretically chart their own demise
from/in history. Here is the class meaning of the inability of various
representatives of the middle strata to understand the value form, the role
of slavery in the emergence of the industrial system and why at this stage the
commodity and
value form is unraveling.

This question of American Trotskyism has dimensions. It is not that the
Trotskyite movement in America is Trotskyism - which it is, but understanding
the
curve of development it arose in opposition to and then its "leap" outside
the
CPUSA. Here is necessary to understand the dialectic - the complexity of the
process of the formation of the CPUSA.

On Marxline, which is not yet a line of Marx or Marx Line, but heavily
Trotskyism, my decision is to not analyze the CPUSA because it produces
another
political consequence. Yet, the origin of the distortion resides in the
formation
of the groups - the early socialist circles and Populist formations, which
became the CPUSA.

Consider the following: if the CPUSA ain't shit - the official line of the
Trotskyite movement in America for seventy years, and the Trotskyite movement
evolved directly out of the CPUSA, then it cannot be "shit." Stated another way,
where in reside the new qualitative features in the social movement of that
era, that allows Trotskyism to escape the legacy of its birth or experience a
qualitative reformulation?

One can ponder the following questions.

Why is it that ninety percent of the so-called revolutionaries cling to race
theory? Why is it that simple things like slavery and the formation of the
American Union defies the understanding of 99% of these revolutionaries in
America? Why is it that during the last great period of upsurge in the
working class
movement, re-ignited by the Freedom Movement all the groups on the left
basically "missed the movement" and were more than less converted into
support
groups of the colonial struggles and appendages of bourgeois property -
inspite of their rethoric to the contrary?  To this very day their heads are stuck
up the ass of the colonials while a blind eye is turned to our working class.

Trotskyism by definition is an ideological movement of social chauvinist
primarily in the imperial centers of the world and composed of the intellectual
strata of society. In America as the dialectal counterpart of the CPUSA they are
and have always been the intellectual hit men of the imperialist bourgeois,
which accounts for the extreme hostility towards all the national colonial
movements of the past era. Their watch words have always been "we love you
colonial fucks but do like we tell you to do."

Talk about the "white man's burden!"

One not fettered by the chauvinistic imperial ideology of the bourgeoisie can
see the
trajectory from Reconstruction all the way through the formation of the SDS
and
why it became a group for a "democratic society" in the first place, and then
fractured into various petty bourgeois political grouping, absolutely devoid
of any conception of the national and colonial question in America and class
logic. These student who became ideological Trotskyites are to this day
devoid of class logic and a sense of history. They are bourgeois democrats and
agents of imperialism in the main.

Ones political tradition only appears as accidental to the individual, but
contains historical and class logic. One is not accidentally a Trotskyite in
America.

"We" - the current genreation of communist workers roughly 50 years old, did
not emerge out of the CPUSA, although there were a hand full of people that
did and this allowed us connection with the history of the communist and
Marxists
movement. These movements are intertwined but not the same. We emerged out of
the industrial proletariat proper and are unable to coexist in the same
organization with the petty bourgeoisie of any color or nationality because
we
advance along a different historical trajectory. We do not sound like the
petty
bourgeoisie and possess a different conception of reality itself.

It is of course not my fault that the enormous historical distortion, whose
roots
reside in the period of the defeat of Reconstruction, reappeared in the shape
of
the personalities of Soviet internal political history. It is none of our
fault but
everyone's responsibility to clarify ones own history. What is historically
distorted in the Marxist and communist movement in America is not Stalin or
Trotsky - although these are the personalities that have shaped how the
distortion is
made manifest, but an understanding of history.

I of course have written and maintain that the doctrines of the past will do
us no good and produced enough material on the state of development of
American society to begin reshaping the outlook of revolutionaries of
Marxline to
closer conform to the logic of American history. Some of the material is good
and
some of it is not so good. Such is life. What I never do is go over to the
enemy and most folks do not understand how not to go over to the enemy
because the historical distortion that appears as personalities of Soviet leaders,
mask the class motion of the ideological groups. In other words the
Trotskyites are ideologist.

I have no problem with confronting the Stalin issue because it affords me an
opportunity to little by little clarify American history and the meaning of
America being a Southern country in its origin - that is the national and
colonial question. The new nation that arose in America was in the North.
This seems increasing obvious today but it has taken several generations of
communist
workers to reach a juncture where this understanding can be won and imparted
to
the masses as a material force. We are of course talking about dismantling or
reconfiguring the multi-national state of the United States of North America
in the last
instance and not some abstract notion of "Social revolution."

Search the political history of American Trotskyism on the origins of the
American Union and you find nothing because this is the key to the political rule
of the Anglo-American imperial bourgeoisie.

We have reached a new juncture, but many of us have simply advanced along the
line of our history for the past 30 years, regrouping at every juncture.
Today, in this era we deliver a catastrophic defeat to the various theorist "of
the left" who embrace race theory, ideological Trotskyism and the general line
of the CPUSA. Again, it has to be stated that as communist workers we did not
emerge from these ideological grouping. Here is why it is rather simple to look
at Stalin and his role in history. Stalin triumphed where others failed and
the cost in bloodletting is for the former Soviet proletariat to articulate.

Here is what is indisputable. Soviet industrialization was rather peaceful
compared with that of England and America. How can one not understand this
elementary fact of history? World industrialization has been a bloody process
and
only the class enemy and their left wing intellectual henchmen can speak
without perspective.

The danger is great in the world today, but a unique opportunity is opening
up. What this means is the opening of an understanding of the weakness of the
Bush administration and the Southern configuration of the structures of
power.
This "Southern configuration of the structures of power" is a historical
phenomenon that is the national colonial question but appeared as the color
factor
and in the heads of the petite bourgeois radial as race theory.

Given the initial distortion in the social movement as the result of the
defeat of Reconstruction and the overthrow of the democratic government of
the
Southern, and the color factor in American history, within the socialist and
then
communist movements the battle would be fought out on the basis of Stalin and
Trotsky.

"I shall die with the memory of the Greatness of Stalin . . his brilliance on
the national-colonial question."  Here is the key to the overthrow of the
bourgeois property relations and the issue that determines whether or not the
fascist onslaught is halted. The fascist advance cannot be halted simply on
the
basis of the Anglo American proletariat in the North - meaning all the
workers
of the North regardless of color, sex or gender bent, but on the basis of our
political history that formed the South and the Southwest.

Revolutionaries in America can in fact lose and a section of the bourgeoisie
can lead and complete the transition to a new mode of production - not as
bourgeoisie, but as a decadent ruling clique. Slavery in America and its
overthrow
has not been understood and the basis on which an old ruling class - in the
form of the slave oligarchy, was shattered and transformed itself into a
"different" class formation as ruling clique, with basically the same people.

Here is the gold - brilliance of Marxism and the National Colonial Question
and it evolved outside Trotskyism and the CPUSA, although "it" had to pass
through the CPUSA given the material factors of our history and the new
alignments
created as the result of the First Imperial World War. The issue is rather
simple but the justifications of the ideologist appear complex to the
politically naive. Stalin appears in history as the Guardian and leader of
Soviet Power
and L. Trotsky evolved into an enemy of Soviet Power and this is rather clear
to anyone that evolved outside the sphere of Trotskyism and the political
logic of the CPUSA. When two majors political authorities and state structure
are
locked in mortal combat, the ideological reasoning one uses to justify what
side you are on is immaterial to the fact that everyone takes - and must
take, a
side. Only the petty bourgeoisie believes that there can be a "middle" in a
polarity that is engagement between hostile classes as state structures.

Stalin is a beacon of light. He wrote the definitive text of the modern
presentation of this question containing the theoretical grid advance by
Lenin, as
well as several other monumental texts on this important question. L. Trotsky
did not write this text and the Trotskyite movement in America has not
written
anything concerning the political logic of our history that makes sense. It
is not so much that Trotskyism and the Trotskyite movement was and remains
sectarian. Rather, the significance is that it was and is an ideological
movement
of disgruntled intellectuals, controlled and manipulated by the bourgeoisie
to
the same degree as its counterpart that is the CPUSA.

Here are the keys to the revolutionary advance in America and the political
logic of Trotskyism and its counterpart in our history. All the nonsense
about
industrial concentration, the industrial proletariat of the past, the
permanent revolution, crimes of the "Third International" and so on, merely
mask ones role in history and needs to be given the burial it deserves. After
all one
can only prove their theory merit on the basis of precise political
description
of their own history and the political logic they advance. This is especially
true on the Internet.

Stalin does not frighten me in the least bit. His program of
industrialization was kinder and gentler than ours. This is denied by American Trotskyism
because they are agents of imperialism and deny the history of the Anglo American
people in relationship to the African American people. They of course cry
crocodile tears over the Native Bands of people because they are dead and killed
most of them. Here is there ideology of "the noble Indian."

The program of industrialization in China - at the hands of its bourgeois
ruling class, is kinder and gentler than Stalin's. Only cowards and front men for
the imperialist can deny this. Do the body count on a per population centered
basis. Who are the lairs and falsifiers now?

The memory of Stalin is of a kinder industrialization that the historical
processes forming England and America. Bloodletting versus murder. The CPUSA
never really understood this simple logic, nor did their bastard step-child
called American Trotskyism. What American Trotskyism has always hated in the
CPUSA is the origins of their own birth. They follow the exact same political
line
with the CPUSA on the right flank. I have absolutely no problem in branding
both the imperialist scoundrels they have always been.



"You got things twisted homes. Around here everyone puts in their own work."
Training Day

Melvin P.



Trotsky.

"I shall die with the memory of the Greatness of Stalin . . his brilliance on
the national-colonial question."  Here is the key to the overthrow of the
bourgeois property relations and the issue that determines whether or not the
fascist onslaught is halted. The fascist advance cannot be halted simply on
the
basis of the Anglo American proletariat in the North - meaning all the
workers
of the North regardless of color, sex or gender bent, but on the basis of our
political history that formed the South and the Southwest.

Revolutionaries in America can in fact lose and a section of the bourgeoisie
can lead and complete the transition to a new mode of production - not as
bourgeoisie, but as a decadent ruling clique. Slavery in America and its
overthrow
has not been understood and the basis on which an old ruling class - in the
form of the slave oligarchy, was shattered and transformed itself into a
"different" class formation as ruling clique, with basically the same people.

Here is the gold - brilliance of Marxism and the National Colonial Question
(that the late Mark Jones requested of me)  and it evolved outside Trotskyism
and the CPUSA, although "it" had to pass through the CPUSA given the material
factors of our history and the new alignments created as the result of the
First Imperial World War. The issue is rather simple but the justifications of the
ideologist appear complex to the politically naive. Stalin appears in history
as the Guardian and leader of Soviet Power and L. Trotsky evolved into an
enemy of Soviet Power and this is rather clear to anyone that evolved outside the
sphere of Trotskyism and the political
logic of the CPUSA.

When two majors political authorities and state structure - USA lead world
imperialism and Soviet Power, are locked in mortal combat, the ideological
reasoning one uses to justify what side you are on is immaterial to the fact that
everyone takes - and must take, a side. Only the petty bourgeoisie believes
that there can be a "middle" in a polarity that is engagement between hostile
classes as state structures.

Stalin is a beacon of light. He wrote the definitive text of the modern
presentation of this question containing the theoretical grid advance by
Lenin, as
well as several other monumental texts on this important question. L. Trotsky
did not write this text and the Trotskyite movement in America has not
written
anything concerning the political logic of our history that makes sense. It
is not so much that Trotskyism and the Trotskyite movement was and remains
sectarian. Rather, the significance is that it was and is an ideological
movement
of disgruntled intellectuals, controlled and manipulated by the bourgeoisie
to
the same degree as its counterpart that is the CPUSA.

Here are the keys to the revolutionary advance in America and the political
logic of Trotskyism and its counterpart in our history. All the nonsense
about
industrial concentration, the industrial proletariat of the past, the
permanent revolution, crimes of the "Third International" and so on, merely
mask ones role in history as Judas and needs to be given the burial it
deserves. After all, one can only prove their theory merit on the basis of precise
political description
of their own history and the political logic they advance. This is especially
true on the Internet.

Stalin does not frighten me in the least bit. His program of
industrialization was kinder and gentler than ours. The program of industrialization in China
- at the hands of its bourgeois ruling class, is kinder and gentler than
Stalin's. Only cowards and front men for the imperialist can deny this. Do the body
count on a per population center basis. Who are the lairs and falsifiers now?

The memory of Stalin is of a kinder industrialization that the historical
processes forming England and America. Bloodletting versus murder. This CPUSA
never really understood this simple logic, nor did their bastard step-child
called American Trotskyism. What American Trotskyism has always hated in the
CPUSA is the origins of their own birth. They follow the exact same political
line
with the CPUSA on the right flank. I have absolutely no problem in branding
both the imperialist scoundrels they have always been.



You got things twisted homes. Around here everyone puts in their own work."
Training Day

Melvin P.