Re: [A-List] Fwd: EWP, 2nd International and the fall of the fSU

[Macdonald Stainsby <mstainsby@xxxxxx>]

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From: "Mark Jones" <markjones011@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
(Quoting compañero Nestor:)


Dear Mark,
Maybe you can repost or use what follows.
Been reading your comments to my comments re: EWP.
Then, an ENORMOUS idea appeared in my mind.
What you are trying to do is to put the train that the 2nd. International
derailed in 1914 back on its track. Yes, I feel that you are trying to
reconstruct, in the conditions of the our times, the 2nd. International,
which, in its core, was a European international. The fall of the fSU in
the early 90s has taken the world back to the conditions that preceded WW
I.
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Nestor, the reason the 2nd International wielded such power and was of such
importance was that the centre of Empire, that is of imperialism, was in Europe.
That is simply not even a debatable point now.

Perhaps rather than retreat to the the polemics of Lenin, we should simply rear
the re-written book with the dedication being a quotation from Ché Guevara:
"You North Americans are very lucky, you have the most important task of all.
Youy live in the belly of the beast..."

We *do* need a movement/party that is based beyond borders, but that the role of
the 1914 2nd International would be taken up by a global shift in imperial
centre that reflects today: North America.

That is not to derail the EWP idea, far from it. But don't give it a role to
which it cannot possibly carry out, despite the indominatable will of its
proponents.

Macdonald