Re: [A-List] chavez

["Anne Williamson" <annewilliamson@xxxxxxx>]

This interview excerpt is from Jon Rappaport's www.nomorefakenews.com site.
It is a private service, and costs $50 a year for a weekly report that is
usually
an interview.  Jon is very interested in cartels, intelligence, and mind
control.
I have mixed feelings about these "anonymous" interviews; some I don't even
bother reading to the end as the subjects are often talking about other
"dimensions,"
and the uses of hypnotism to reach them - a way of thinking about and
perceiving
what is happening in the world that I find dubious.  But many are quite
interesting,
and I read them in full....the site is a mixed bag, IMO (naturally, I do not
share
all of Jon's interests).

However, after having just got the news on Chavez, I received the interview
from which the brief excerpt below was taken.  The subject's initial remarks
resonated with me (as did the full interview!).  So on the basis of giving
Jon
some free advertisement, I am posting the comments pertinent to Chavez as a
way of responding to Bob's and Chris's recent posts.

Can anyone confirm that Chavez did indeed tell the IMF and the WB to take a
hike?  If true, that extraordinary bit of info sailed right past me.  Here's
the
excerpt:

File 61--This week's guest has worked inside the US intelligence community
for many years.  He has worked for the CIA.  He has also investigated the US
intelligence community.  On his own.  He has been a source of mine for quite
some time.  This is his first newsletter interview.  He covers a wide range
of subjects.

I will simply say I was placed in contact with this man through several
intermediaries, including the medical doctor who first put me on to the scam
that is AIDS.

I have always found that my guest today has thought important matters out to
a remarkable degree.  His work has, over the years, influenced my thinking
on a number of subjects, and vice versa.  We have established a dialogue.

NOTE: THIS INTERVIEW WAS COMPLETED JUST HOURS BEFORE PRESIDENT CHAVEZ OF
VENEZUELA RESIGNED, IN A COUP.


Q:   Quite a scene in Venezuela these days.  President Chavez seems a marked
man.  He told the IMF and the World Bank to take a hike.  He raised taxes on
oil shipped out of Venezuela.  He's trying to give land back to dispossessed
farmers.


A:   Assassination plans are on the table.  The CIA is inside his pants.
It's a question of giving the green light.  There is a lot of activity at
the CIA concerning this matter.  The only hitch is, they want to make it
look like a purely Venezuelan coup.  They don't want another Chile, another
Allende.  There are four or five scenarios being considered.  The other
thing is, Venezuela is the fourth largest oil producer in the world.  So
they don't want to disrupt that, to endanger the flow.  This oil strike now,
it's temporary.  I'm talking about the long-range problem.  Chavez is in
office until 2004, so they don't want to wait for another election, at least
not a legal election.  The CIA would like to find a way to remove him
without assassination.  That's another hold-up in the plan to get him out of
the way.  This is a nasty one.  When a president tells the IMF he wants to
run his country without their "help," a whole range of actions goes into
motion.  A cascade.  The press in that country savagely attacks the
president.  The local military gears up for a coup.  All sorts of things
happen.  You may hear things about Chavez's connection to Cuba.  This coming
possible coup may be characterized as the removal of a left-wing president,
"to save the hemisphere from the ravages of socialism."  But it's about his
bucking the destructive policies of the IMF and the World Bank, and it's
about the oil.  Energy-cartel people are sitting there, waiting for a
possible "privatization" of Venezuela's state owned oil industry.  It may
not be sold directly off in a gross fashion.  We may hear about
"reorganization" and "new partnerships."  There are higher levels of
complexity here, too.  I won't get into them right now.


Q:   No.  Go ahead.


A:   All right.  You have the energy cartel thinking this is a perfect time
to point out that there is a danger situation vis-à-vis global oil.  To
point it out to, say, the CIA.  To point it out over and over.  To pound on
it hard.  You already have the Middle East situation and the possible
significant cut-off of oil supplies from that region.  So, if there is an
oil-supply problem in Venezuela, that makes it even more imperative to act
against Chavez, to get rid of his higher prices, his taxes on exports of
oil.  In other words, this is a good moment to insist he be taken out, to
make a new deal on who is going to run and possibly own the Venezuelan oil
supply.  In that context, fomenting a temporary strike by oil workers there
is perfect.  But then, within the planetary elite, of which the energy
cartel is a part, there are also people who simply want to crash economies
and invent the pretext for what will generally be a much tighter military
control of nations and societies.  So you have a conflict at the upper,
upper levels of power.  Create a short-term problem whose solution is
getting rid of Chavez and grabbing a controlling interest in the oil of
Venezuela?  Or create the appearance of global energy deficit of very large
proportions, and move in behind the resultant chaos and establish more
political and military control everywhere?


Q:   Usually, in these matters, the more moderate forces win.


A:   Yes.  But since 9/11, there are more crazies in various drivers' seats.
  More Nazis, shall we say.