[A-List] Enron, Anatomy of a Cover Up

["Anne Williamson" <annewilliamson@xxxxxxx>]

All:  University endowements are the new public/private criminal venues of
US-led global fascism.  Harvard Management Corporation should be thoroughly
investigated imparticular because they are the chief agents of the
insiders' predatory interests (while profiting massively themselves),
providing the intellectual camoflauge and perfumed personnel to sustain the
worldwide looting system of the Federal Reserve System, and its foreign
subsidiary, the IMF.  These swine parade their intellectual deceit before
the public by fraudulently labelling their methods as "free market"
capitalism.  - Anne

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3/15 Dennis Bernstein's interview with CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS "Enron: The
Anatomy of a Cover-Up"



Flashpoints News Radio, KPFA, Berkeley, USA


Dennis Bernstein's interview with CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS
"Enron: The Anatomy of a Cover-Up"



Transcribed and Edited by Richard Clark and Burnadine Gaskin


Catherine Austin Fitts is a Republican insider who was targeted for her
success at reengineering government and making providing information about
"how the money works" and about stock market capital available to small
businesses and communities.



Dennis Bernstein (of KPFA in Berkeley) recently interviewed her about the
ongoing cover-up, by Congress, the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the
Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC), of the Enron criminal enterprise.


Fitts believes that the most damning evidence in the Enron case was allowed
to slip away so that political damage to the current administration could be
minimized and money stolen protected from recapture.  Fitts believes that it
is not too late for informed citizens to insist on a successful effort to
get back both the monies stolen and the as well as insider trading profits
taken by Enron's board, management and their affiliates, and to prosecute
those responsible.



Ms. Fitts is a former managing director and member of the board of directors
of Dillon Read & Co, Inc, a former Assistant Secretary of Housing- Federal
Housing Commissioner in the first Bush Administration, and the former
President president of The Hamilton Securities Group, Inc.   Ms. Fitts was
offered an opportunity to serve as a governor of the Federal Reserve Board
and declined, electing instead to build a private network committed to the
creation of wealth through a commitment to the rule of law. She is the
president of Solari, Inc., an investment advisory firm created to channel
equity capital to solaris (community databanks) and their venture capital
affiliates.  Solari offers risk management services through Sanders Research
Associates in London.



THE INTERVIEW:



Dennis:             Say a little bit more about the background and the work
you did with the Bush administration, and since that time.



Catherine:         I was hired by the first Bush administration to help
clean up $100 billion sized financial frauds.  These had to do with Iran
Contra, the S&L crisis, BCCI and the HUD scandal.  I was there for 18
months.  When I left I was asked to become a governor of the Federal Reserve
Board.  I declined and instead started an investment bank and financial
software firm.  In 1996 and 1997, I was targeted by the DOJ and learned much
more about Washington fraud and the depth of the financial scandals that the
DOJ keeps hidden.



Dennis:             Alright Catherine Austin Fitts, do the anatomy of a
cover-up for us.  If the Justice Department and Congress and the SEC wanted
to nail the Enron bandits and money launderers, what should they have done,
first, second and third, that they did not do?



Catherine:         There are five steps that should have been taken.  All
five are based on two fundamental principles that you always see working
when prosecutors and investigators are doing a competent job.



                        The first fundamental principle: --- make Make sure
you have control of all the data and information about money and how that
money is used in the organization.  And then, the second fundamental
principle:   --- uUse that control (of the data and information) to gain
control of any cash that was stolen or wrongfully used.



It helps to compare financial fraud to a game of basketball.  The ball is
the cash and you want to keep your eyes on the ball at all times.  Keeping
that in mind, let's walk through the five steps of what a competent
investigation and prosecution effort would do in a case of major financial
fraud.



Let me emphasize at the outset that what we are dealing with here is very
definitely a criminal enterprise.  Enron and their accountants have already
admitted to securities violations, gross negligence, and obstruction of
justice.  So let's not skirt the issue: we have a self-proclaimed criminal
enterprise. I believe that Enron was also engaged in additional financial
fraud and money laundering.  When there is only even a possibility of
something like this, the first thing you do is assert establish control of
both the records and cash.   Given that there was, early on, clear admission
of criminal violations, there was absolutely no excuse for the government
not to have promptly exerted this kind of control.

                        So let's walk through the five steps:

§          First, a real investigation gets control of all the documents.
And by all the documents I mean all the papers and digital records of Enron
and its 3,000 subsidiaries and special purpose entities, both on-shore and
offshore.  You also make sure you get control of all the Enron-related
records at their banks, auditors and other vendors, both onshore and
offshore.  It's impossible for us to tell, from where we are, the exact
extent of the subpoena or other discovery actions that have been taken, but
clearly there's a great deal they havethat has not been done, particularly
offshore, just based on the public record.   We know the government has
permitted extensive shredding of documents by Arthur Andersen and Enron,
something that is incredibly disturbing because it proves that months into
an investigation, the SEC and DOJ chose not to assert the initial control
that was absolutely essential to the success of any such investigation.

§          Second, you never allow the transfer of assets before you assert
the appropriate controls. That's why the first thing you need to do is gain
control of documents and the cash.  And yet we've seen the government
readily permit the transfer of Enron Online -- which I believe was a
money-laundering and slush fund operation -- to the Swiss bank, UBS, one of
their largest creditors.  So now it's very possible that a great deal of
information that would be needed for a proper investigation is under the
protection of the privacy laws of a Swiss bank.  And by the way, it's very
interesting, and perhaps quite significant, to note that the newest Board
member of UBS, the bank that purchased the Enron Online operation, is the
former chairman of Arthur Anderson.

Enron was also permitted to have the gold bullion and gold derivatives
trading operation transferred.  Understand that to be able make these two
transfers, as quickly and quietly as they were, in the middle of an initial
bankruptcy filing, was nothing short of miraculous based on what I'm told by
bankruptcy attorneys.  In combination with the shredding, this permitsit
permitted the coordination of cover-up of two things:  money laundering and
a lot of financial fraud between the banks and the entity itself, .  But
this will probably be kept hidden because now one of the banks now controls
what is probably the most likely guilty entity.  So that's number two -- the
government has allowed the transfer of assets in a way that stops
investigational access to the documents (and employees) they would need for
a successful investigation.

§          Third, you always get document and cash control, if you can,
before a bankruptcy filing. Instead, tThey permitted a bankruptcy filing
before assertion of control.  A bankruptcy filing gives Enron all sorts of
powers and rights to protect themselves, particularly from the class action
lawsuits that, on a private basis, could eventually dig out some of this
data about how the money worked, even if the DOJ and SEC don't succeed in
digging this out.   Watching this process, my question is, "Did the DOJ and
SEC specifically help Enron get into bankruptcy, so as to protect the
information from the class action investigation?"

§          Fourth, you never permit shredding of documents.  There are lots
of different ways to work with the attorneys, the accountants and other
people to ensure that shredding doesn't happen.   Not only has it happened,
but Arthur Andersen and Enron have admitted to what appears to me to be
criminal obstruction of justice, by shredding the documents.

This is even the more shocking because of the government's right to assert
control over any federal contract and seize government payables owed to the
guilty parties.  Enron, since 1997, has enjoyed substantial federal
contracts, and Arthur Andersen enjoys very significant and sensitive federal
contracts.  Those contracts can be cancelled for convenience at the pleasure
of the government, and it can be done within the space of 24 hours.  I have
direct experience with the government doing this. Cash that is owed under
these contracts can be seized as an offset for a variety of things, whenever
probable fraud is evident.  Yet the government has not cancelled those
contracts and has not seized the cash.  We need to ask why this didn't
happen.

You can imagine how much this investigation is costing taxpayers, yet the
government has neglected to take any of these basic steps.  So I would
ask: ---   Iif Enron and Arthur Andersen by their own admission are guilty
of criminal violations of destroying evidence, of cooking the books, and you
have Enron board members saying that Arthur Andersen and the management
lied, then on what basis should they not be immediately disbarred from doing
business with the federal government?  Why on earth would we let companies
that behave that way continue to control our government's most sensitive
information systems and share its responsibilities?

§          Fifth, you assert control of all the company cash, both onshore
and offshore.  (Example: When Noriega was sent to jail, my understanding is
that we used the PROMIS software system to sweep offshore bank accounts and
seize back $2 billion of his money.)  You can also assert control of all the
capital gains that were made on insider trading or probable insider trading.
You do not need to have an indictment, or to prove fraud, to assert control
over those stock market profits made by the Enron board and management and
their affiliates.

You and I have talked about the lead Harvard money manager (Highfields
Capital) making an extraordinary amount of money shorting Enron stock in a
pattern that is very typical of a pump and dump fraud -- and . . .

Dennis: What is a "Pump and Dump"?

Catherine:         A "Pump and Dump" begins when you pump up a stock:  --
you do a series of things that make its value go up.  And money laundering
is one of the things you can use to pump up a stock.  Then, when you are
through finished running money through the company (i.e. laundering the
money through it), you let the revenues drop and that's the dump.  You make
money trading the stock on the way up, and you make money when you are
prepared to dump it -- you short the stock on the way down.

The chairman of the Enron finance committee is a member of the Harvard
Corporation, which runs Harvard's $19-billion endowment, one of the largest
investors in the country.  And while acting as the chairman of the Enron
finance committee, Herbert S. Winokur ("Pug" Winokur), insisted that he was
lied to and tricked, and knew nothing of things going wrong.  In his hat as
Harvard Corporation board member, he was a person who was intimately
involved in the Harvard investment operation on a day-to-day basis.  He was
also involved with his own firm, which invests along side Harvard.  So
Harvard's largest money manager (Highfields Capital), managing $2 billion of
Harvard's $19-billion investment, has a huge short position and makes what
appears to be a great deal of money.  Therefore, it is very interesting that
Mr. Winokur, as the chairman of Enron finance committee, didn't know there
was a problem, and yet Mr. Winokur, as member of the Harvard Corporation,
had a money manager who is an intimate part of that operation who clearly
knew that something was very wrong.  How to explain this?



Interjected clip from Enron hearings held by the Senate Commerce Committee:

(Discussion Exchange between Senator Ernest Hollings and the Texas college
professor, Mr. Powers, who did the investigation for the Enron Board of
Directors, after they installed him on the Board.  It would appear that
there's an attempt at obfuscation by Professor Powers.  Discussion between
Dennis and Catherine follows.)

Hollings:           Let me ask you -- you said that on January 16th some 12
of you met with Mr. Kenneth Lay to take his testimony as to what went on,
isn't that correct?

Professor:         Yes, I was at that interview.

Hollings:           We lawyers always have a stenographer present to take
down what was said.  Do you have those notes for the committee?

Professor:         We did not use a stenographer.  We made a memorandum
based on that -- I think it was a 17-page single-spaced memorandum -- I
think we had been working with the staff to provide those results of all of
our interviews to the committee.

Hollings:           Well wait a minute.  You say you didn't take just one
set of notes?  So all of you were making different notes, from time to time,
as he (Lay) testified, were you not?

Professor:         Somebody took notes.

Hollings:           Can you furnish those notes to us?

Professor:         Well, we turned those notes into a draft into the
memorandum.

Hollings:           I understand that, but did you?  . . .

Professor:         So we did not keep the notes.

Hollings:           Good gosh, so you shredded the notes?

Professor:         Senator, there is nothing that is not in the report, and
this was the standard accepted way that has been worked by many
investigators over a long period of time to do internal investigations . . .
is to use the procedure that we used.

Hollings:           You're saying that the standard procedure is not to take
down the testimony of the gentleman that you are investigating, and
otherwise, while you took some notes, to destroy the notes.  Is that your
testimony?

Professor:         We used those (notes) to prepare a very detailed --
within 24-hours in all but a very few cases -- very careful, accurate,
complete description of what went on in those interviews.  I do think that
is standard practice in investigations of this sort.

Hollings:           Well, uh, thank you Mr. Chairman.





Dennis:             (commenting Commenting on the exchange between Professor
Powers and Senator Ernest Hollings):  "Standard practice, huh?  Well maybe
it is standard practice."

Catherine:         It's called SOP -- and I will tell you how I learned that
term.  SOP stands for "Standard Operating Procedure."  When my company was
targeted regarding our work for the Clinton administration, we had several
situations where the DOJ and their investigators tried to falsify evidence
or destroy evidence.  I was dealing with a criminal syndicate . . .

Dennis:             You mean the US government, right?  A criminal
syndicate?

Catherine:         Correct.  We got an affidavit documenting the efforts to
falsify -- I mean pure criminal falsification of evidence by the DOJ
investigators -- and we took it to a court trustee and he looked at it and
he said that this was "SOP."  I asked one of the retired auditors, "What is
SOP?"  He replied, "That is standard operating procedure -- you just try to
frame on obstruction of justice and that is how you get an indictment."
Everyone seemed to think that was "SOP."  Well, if I was to write a book
called "How To Cover Up A Financial Fraud," tactic #22 would be to get a
white shoe commission, appoint some serious very respectable guy who is
totally naïve about what is really going on, and do a report.
 Basically, --- whether it takes two weeks or two months or two years,---
what it does is keeps everybody busy. It burns up time and resources, it
complicates things, and it muddles things. During the time that he's
(Powers) has got everybody busy and entertained, you've got Arthur Andersen
shredding the documents and you're transferring the money laundering
operation over to the Swiss bank.   So it's basically a holding action --
you're buying time while you do all the things you have to do to destroy the
money trail, so that you get to keep the cash.

Dennis:             Well we've got a bunch of things I want to go through,
and we only have about 10 minutes left, so let me ask you about this.
There was a very interesting press release that came out of the Cayman
Islands.  Talk about why that was interesting.

Catherine:         That was interesting because it happened very shortly
after they neatly got Enron Online tucked away inside the Swiss mountain
range, -- and then some very important news slips out of the Cayman Islands.
It is a press release from the Cayman Islands.  Enron SEC filings indicate
that there are approximately 700 Enron subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands.
(This is a huge number of subsidiaries for a company to have -- in one of
the great offshore money havens of the world.)  The government of the Cayman
Islands says, in this press release, that it would be delighted to cooperate
with U.S. investigators and prosecutors on an investigation of Enron, but as
of this date they have not yet received a request for assistance. So there
was and is no effort to assert control of the data about the money, period.

Meanwhile, keep in mind that you have Congress doing all this screaming and
ranting and raving that really makes them seem like they are doing something
significant.  And so I'm sitting, listening to all this stuff, and having a
feeling of -- as Yogi Berra said, "its déjà vu all over again."  Here they
are covering this up, exactly the way they covered up the S&L stuff, which
was a very similar situation. It was a bunch of guys from Houston and New
York Fed member banks and Wall Street who got together and stole a couple of
hundred billion dollars. It is the same network -- so here we go again --
and Congress is playing the same cover-up game, again.



Dennis:             Before, you were alluding to Herbert "Pug" Winokur.
This is somebody who chairs the finance committee of Enron's board, who was
a member of this investigation.  He is also on the board -- I believe he is
the former Chairman -- at DynCorp.  Talk about Herbert Winokur and DynCorp
and why the senators, when they had him in front of them and he was saying,
"I don't know nothin'," why that was apparently a lie, and why they might be
afraid to ask him serious questions.

Catherine:         Winokur used another "Standard Operating Procedure" in
this situation, which is to get the guy who is basically in charge off the
hook.  (As chairman of the Enron finance committee, he is the person on the
board who is in charge of making sure the company is run on a financially
sound basis.)  Anyway, Winokur asserted the "I know nothing" SOP.  It's like
the guy in Stalag 17 who copped the plea, "I know nothing."  Herbert was
saying the same thing: he knew nothing, because of a cover-up that had been
carried out without his knowledge -- which is absurd on the face of it,
because here is Winokur essentially saying, "I'm incompetent -- I hired
auditors (Arthur Anderson) who lied.  So therefore I am not responsible.
They lied to me and they tricked me."

Meantime, Winokur is the chairman of the compensation committee, and member
of the executive committee, of DynCorp, a government contractor, and he
continues to use Arthur Andersen as his auditor on DynCorp.  Now if an
auditor lied and tricked you and caused the largest bankruptcy in history, I
dare say you'd fire them in your other capacity.  So we know that Winokur's
story doesn't sort.

We So we must ask this question: ---  why Why would the Congress let Winokur
get away with saying, "It's not my fault, I'm not responsible because I was
incompetent and negligent"?   Well the DOJ and the SEC, from everything that
I can read from the public record, has not asserted control of Enron's
documents.  But what is interesting is that Winokur in his DynCorp hat, has
asserted control of the DOJ and SEC documents, and let me explain why.
DynCorp is the information computer system provider to the SEC.  Presumably
that includes SEC enforcement, and they (DynCorp) provide a substantial
amount of computer and information systems for the DOJ and the FBI,
including some of the groups who are investigating Enron . . .

Dennis interrupts:  and the CIA and the DEA, and on and on and on -- yes?

Catherine agrees: -- yes, and on and on.  So basically, DynCorp, as a
day-to-day practical matter, has asserted control over the DOJ and SEC
records, even though the DOJ and SEC have not asserted control over Enron's
records. Pug is a person who has access to an extraordinary amount of data,
because the American taxpayers pay Pug and his company to collect and manage
data on all of us.

Dennis:            So it would be like in olden times when J. Edgar Hoover
gave testimony before Congress, and various congressman had many things to
hide, and were understandably somewhat timid about asking Mr. Hoover -- in
this case Mr. DynCorp, if you will, (Herbert "Pug" Winokur) -- serious and
probing questions.

Catherine:       For the rest of my life -- I'm going to be 80 years old and
telling people about Dennis Bernstein's brilliant insight that Pug Winokur
is the new J. Edgar Hoover.  But that's exactly right:  if my understanding
is correct, DynCorp uses the most advanced version of the PROMIS software
system. Theoretically they have access to everybody's bank account, onshore
and offshore.  Therefore, Pug may well have a list in his pocket on how much
is in the offshore accounts of all those senators and congressmen who are
grilling him.

For those of your listeners who have seen the movie "Enemy of the State,"
DynCorp is one of these operations that has the ability to take an honest
person like the lawyer played by Will Smith in "Enemy of the State," and set
them up, and within a week or two have everybody including their family
believing they're living way outside the law.  This is done with
falsification of database and bank records around town, (physical harassment
and surveillance) and smear campaigns in the papers.   I know that they can
do it because I've played Will Smith in real life. I've lived through that
experience.  So I know that these are very dangerous people.

Dennis:            Finally, in the last two minutes that we have, talk a
little bit about Enron Online and why it would be significant to focus on
that and why you are paying so much attention to that.

Catherine:        I came at Enron from a backwards way.  I came at Enron
because I was looking for $3.3 trillion, which is missing at (federal)
agencies like the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) --
agencies that are managed in part by Pug and his pals.  In 1996, a decision
was made to run a covert operation to get rid of all the honest people
(working for or at HUD) in the investigation that targeted me.  This
included getting rid of my company and me.  Keep in mind that the ultimate
internal financial control is to have honest people running things.  This is
why they had to get rid of us.

And then a group of contractors who run HUD (where billions of dollars are
now missing), Lockheed, DynCorp, J.P. Morgan-Chase and Arthur Andersen, turn
up as massively present at Enron. (Winokur, from DynCorp, and as well as a
Lockheed board member, Frank Savage, are on the Enron finance committee and
board, ;  JP Morgan-Chase is an Enron creditor and Enron Online trading
partner, ;  Arthur Anderson is the auditor who is shredding documents and
cooking books, ;  and Pug's partner Dudley Mecum is on the board of DynCorp
and on the board of Citigroup, another Enron creditor and Enron Online
trading partner.)

We had a huge amount of money disappear from the accounts of all these
federal agencies-:  General Accounting Office (GAO) (and Inspector General)
reports and testimony document that $59 billion was missing from HUD in
fiscal 1999, and $17 billion was missing in fiscal 1998, and they refused to
say how much was missing in fiscal 2000. So I was trying to figure out how
you could launder hundreds of billions of dollars (stolen from the federal
government) starting in the fall of 1997, because that is so much money that
you can't just run it (launder it) through a pizza restaurant. You are
talking about a huge amount of money and you are talking about something
that JP Morgan, Lockheed, DynCorp and Arthur Anderson would have to be part
of.

So, in the fall of 1997 there is an explosion of revenues (at Enron Online),
and nobody can explain where the revenues came from.  They just say it's
very complicated, it's "derivatives," you know.  Well that's ridiculous.  In
my experience, if you can't explain something, then something is wrong.  So
I'm looking for the missing money: there is over $3.3 trillion missing from
federal government agencies over a 3-year period, and my big question is,
"Is Enron the laundromat," and is that why Congress is covering this up?

Dennis:             Well there are many, many, questions and we are going to
tell people how they can, for a $100 donation to KPFA, get a 2-CD set of
"Enron: The Anatomy of a Cover-Up," in which we go much more deeply into
this with you, Catherine Austin Fitts.

I want to thank you for joining us.  There's a lot more to say and we will
definitely invite you back.  And I want to remind people that you are the
former Assistant Secretary of Housing-Federal Housing Commissioner, you
served in the first Bush Administration, and you raised lots of money for
them (George H. W. Bush and the Republican Party) at some point, and also
that you are the past managing director and member of the board of the Wall
Street investment bank, Dillon Read & Co. Inc.


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Flashpoints on Radio KPFA: Enron: Anatomy of a Cover Up, see real audio
archives for February 12, 13, 15, 26, 28th, March 6:

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Summary: February 28th, start 17 minutes in at:
http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20020228.ram

To order the two CD set available from KPFA in Berkeley for a $100 donation,
"Enron: Anatomy of a CoverUp, call 866-842-4848

For more on Enron and laundering from Catherine Austin Fitts:

Narco Dollars, published by Narco News:

http://www.narconews.com/narcodollars1.html

Hold the Line:

Harvard Watch's "Trading Truth: A Report on Harvard's Enron Entanglements"

http://www.truthout.com/02.02G.Harvard.Watch.htm

The Hijackers of Harvard: A Name and Address:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0202/S00030.htm

Enron: Let's Play 20 Questions:

http://www.drugwar.com/fitts20questions.shtm

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