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Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist
G'day Bob,
> Just then, Rumsfeld, staring disconsolately out the window, sees
> salvation approaching in the form of a Boeing 727.....
>
> Problem solved.
The PR moment is but a fleeting one, I think. It all depends on how long the
popular passions can be maintained (a Christmas atrocity would suit the
project, no doubt) - there's a lot of winding back of residual democracy and
liberal humanism to be done, and one senses mainstream concern is already growing.
> And in the Mid-East, a day or two of jubilation, overtaken by a more
> sober assessment. "....Oh shit, and us without an air force..."
Wouldn't do 'em any good, Bob. When Sartre and Fanon were putting their
terrorism-as-resistance-of-the-oppressed case, a Mig 21 was effectively the
equal of a Euro Mirage was the equal of a Yancqui Phantom - nowadays US
avionics, weaponry and sheer numbers are such that no combination of
belligerents could prevail against Uncle Sam in a conventional stoush. And
you have to have somewhere to land your aircraft - just the sort of targets
the USAF does best (not counting villages and convoys of allied delegates, natch).
> ... this opening scene is as good as it could be for the owners of the world.
> However you slice it , Osamas last production is even more useful to
> the Great Satan than the stellar service he has rendered in the recent
> past....No doubt this is coincidence, blowback, the law of UN-intended
> consequences....
Has anyone here read Chalmers Johnson's *Blowback*? I haven't, but I have
heard the gent interviewed on the book, and both he and it sound very
worthwhile - from description to necessary but wholly unlikely strategic
prescription (I suspect CJ underestimates the degree to which sustained
belligerence is integral/essential to the US in the moment). A post-S11
edition is due out early in the new year, anyway.
> And the man who presumably aimed at this result, hoping for a general
> conflagration in the Muslim world, denies the act.Most of the Arab
> street believes that he was not responsible.
Well, it's probably best from the p.o.v. of the perps to keep things confused
- make the North's flailing retaliations as unfocussed, strategically moot,
and morally unconvincing as possible. If my guesses are valid, it'd all
gradually have to take the form of satanic-infidel-versus-Islam-as-a-whole,
after all. For the moment, thousands of innocent martyrs would be more
valuable than a few Jihadi dead, doncha think?
> Maybe because they have the same difficulty with the scenario that
> many of us have....namely trying to see how anyone benefits from 9/11 except
> their enemies.
It's a gamble, sure. But maybe there are two-projects-in-one on the go.
That's what I'm trying to get at. Within this Huntingtonian "'Infidel-North'
v Islamic-'South'" schema, I suspect there's a "neo-Wahhabist Islam v current
Islamic elites" project afoot. Maybe killing infidels, and getting infidels
to kill yet more Muslems (on Muslem land), is all about a powerplay *within*
the Islamic world - whereby one sect is playing for hegemony by hardening
popular feeling towards the North, making institutional ties between the
Muslem compradors and governments and the North untenable, and generally
fostering a fear and loathing that might find expression in popular
theo-radicalisation. Were that the case, something of an agreement of
interests would maintain between the apparent belligerents. That's quite
scary, I reckon (what, with the implicit self-perpetuating dynamic) - but a
sadly neat fit with the evidence, imho.
> Well. I guess you need a certain amount of luck to rule the world.
Like having an apparent enemy whose interests lie in the same people-ruining
direction as your own?
I gotta stop this speculating about hidden depths - the surface is bad enough ...
A pox on both their houses, anyway.
And a merry and convivial seasonal respite to all,
Rob.
- Thread context:
- Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist, (continued)
Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist,
Charles Brown Tue 18 Dec 2001, 16:50 GMT
Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist,
Tom Warren Tue 18 Dec 2001, 18:01 GMT
Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist,
Charles Brown Tue 18 Dec 2001, 20:50 GMT
Re: [A-List] A reply to a rightwing trade unionist,
Charles Brown Wed 19 Dec 2001, 15:28 GMT
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