[A-List] Re: omen in Kosovo and Afghanistan

[Andre Gunder Frank <franka@xxxxxxx>]

of course the govs AFTER the king were more progressive reformist and the
Soviet suppoted one/s all the more so, and of course also in re women. It
was the CIA backed/created domestic political/military forces that turned
the clock and more than that back for women. The latter day US discovery
of women's oppression in Afghanisatan is pure hypocresy if only because
while Taleban were US allies until very recently their ultra patriarchial
polices were altogether acceptable -- as was opium in the anti-Soviet war
[a minor trade off as Brzinsky said compared to the world shaking
anti-Soviet crusade] and as again now, after Taliban erradicated opium -
and for that got US# 46 million of thanks in August 2001!- while the NA
did,does, and will grow and run drugs galore [NOT incidentally to
and via the Albanian KLA- CIA farm club now - indeed already years ago-
ALSO in the ''white'' slave womens trade ] - all only  other small trade
off prices to pay in the US world wide ''anti-drug' and womens
christian temperance decency union  crusade! -- as per also
CIA Contra drugs for a good world shaking cause.

AND have any of the latter day stalwart defenders of womens rights ever
considered why it might be that Taleban was soooooo anti-womens rights?
Who was it that was PRO? the Soviets and their puppet govs!  If the
communists say that milk is good for babies, it must be bad [good ol' cold
war saying]. and if they say womens rights are good, they must be bad too,
the more anti- Soviet/communist, the more patriarchial.Thank your Sir CIA.
[The Argentinian Mafalda - US Nancy or Toby analog - wanted Fidel to say
that soup is good for you -- so she would not have to eat what she most
hates]  Its NOT funny.

gunder frank
 15 Dec
2001, Macdonald Stainsby wrote:

> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 14:01:07 -0800
> From: Macdonald Stainsby <mstainsby@xxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Discussions on the Socialist Register and its articles
>     <SOCIALIST-REGISTER@xxxxxxxx>
> To: SOCIALIST-REGISTER@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: omen in Kosovo and Afghanistan
>
> > Dr. Samar argued in her talk that many of the changes that occurred
> > in Afghanistan such as the decline of women's status were a result of
> > the Russian invasion of the country in 1979.  She noted that the
> > pro-Russian government which the Russian army was sent in to defend
> > implemented many reforms that were not compatible with Afghan culture
> > such as changes to the education system.  At the same time, the
> > Russian army focused its attacks on the rural areas of Afghanistan.
> > These rural areas had very little infrastructure while those
> > government services that did exist, such as schools, were destroyed
> > by Russian bombs.
>
> For completely different reasons, I believe it was a mistake that the USSR was
> foolhardy enough to invade the country in 1979. Brezhnev did wrong by the people
> of Afghanistan in this move. HOWEVER- to state that Afghan women were oppressed
> and that the plight of their struggle at the hands of the Mujahideen and then
> the Taliban (and now the Northern Alliance rapists and cutthroats) was a result
> of their enemy- the socialists and the USSR- that is rankly opportunist and
> simply false. Girls education became compulsory. University enrollment was made
> a part of society from Kabul to Kandahar. This is one of the reasons the CIA
> organised (before the idiotic invasion of Soviet troops) among the rural area
> tribesmen. They were the most "orthodox" and reactionary towards women's
> advancement. Under the Soviet backed regime, the old left-leaning group had
> carried out massive land reforms, attacked and curtailed opium production and
> saw women involved in society on a level not seen since. To attack the socialist
> government and say the Russians were at fault is simply not true and proves that
> the speech was given to appease western policy makers. It is a disappointing lie
> surrounded by so much valuable information.
>
> Macdonald
>




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