Re: [A-List] Frank v. Landes update

[Andre Gunder Frank <franka@xxxxxxx>]

Landes does not reply in general so far as i know. however in a round
table on his book at some meets - SSHS? - in chicago in 98 [that is where
at lunch we set up oour own public C-span debate] the critics agreed with
the whole thesis and just quibbled abvout this and that, except for one
critic who did more. David wiped the floor with them , in part again
because of his good showmanship. In the Landes/Frank email debate tast
lasted 2 mohths with about 100 partcipants on 4 nets simultaneously, he
did not say a word, at the begining he was in europe [in fact he told me
he does not use e-mail at least still then;and assistant sometimes tells
him whart going on! thats how in footnote he lambasted the h-net
discussioin]. the Pomeranz one on Cnina was similar  to the
Landes/Frank one on e-mail and both had overlap of participants. Dsavid
put 2 footnotes into hais book lambastiung me - they are quoted in my review.
my  review of landes [last time i copied the quoted poearsl of wisdom on
china from my review] is on my webpage under --on-line- subsectin
reviews, and mine on Pomeranz is there too, along with some others.

good thing about the capitalism origins debate. i dont weanna be provoked.
i long since cut the gordina know on how/wne/where/why capitalism
arose. it didnt cause it never existed, nor does it so now. its just an
ideological label - that explains the wrong thing, eg misplaced
concreteness- and it was on the anti-cap banner of the left, but has also
recenlty/long ago been inscribed on the Thacherist/Reaganite right whoi
wave it for all it is worth, drowingn oout the  left use of the same flag
that the right appropriazted as it own. best thing is to never mind the
whole thing.
 cheers
gunder

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