Re: [A-List] Jim Blaut on Frank v. Landes

[Andre Gunder Frank <franka@xxxxxxx>]

before your proceed with your Diamond is for ever enthusiasm, your
better read the Blaut [!] chapter on Diamond in Jim's
EIGHT EUROCENTRIC HISTORIANS.

funny how even the  most BIG/long/globalist [eg also Graeme Snooks - see
my review if you wish -]  people shed their mantle and return to
Eurocentric square 1 the moment they get as far as telling us why the
west rose. Diamond alas, as Jim showed, is one of them.

 On Wed, 28 Nov
2001, Tom Warren wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:26:11
> From: Tom Warren <tomzbox@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> To: a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [A-List] Jim Blaut on Frank v. Landes
>
>
> Jim Blaut is quoted as:
>
> >..... or 5000 years ago (Jones, Mann,Hall,Wittfogel, et al.), something, or
> >some things, that propelled Europe and only Europe forward toward later
> >modernization. This, of course, is  the
> >conventional position. I think it has in it a large dose of Eurocentric
> >folklore. For every trait in ancient or medieval Europe that seems to be
> >part of the explanation for Europe's later rise (relative to
> >other>civilizations), I think you find either that (1) the trait was also
> >presentin non-Europe, or (2) the trait was not really all that progressive,
> >or all that pregnant with implications for later progress, or (3) the
> >traitcould be balanced off against some trait of non-Europe which was
> >equally pregnant with implications for later development. The problem here
> >is what I call "tunnel history." <<
>
> Mark,
> Damn, this would be a really great opportunity to quote large slices of
> Jared Diamond's "Guns Germs and Steel"; but since I assume everyone has
> already memorized it, this reminder will have to suffice. There are in fact
> considerable arguments to be made from a bioregional perspective that Europe
> was a bit more pregnant than most. Diamond's analysis of Pizarro and the
> Incas sheds lots of light ...
>
> tom
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